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vatican terms wild politicking going on amongst the other cardinals, something they are not supposed to do. the big question, who will be the next pope? could he be from africa? we'll get to that in a couple minutes. first, let's talk about the state of the union. next hour president obama will make the first of three stops to drum up support for the new initiatives he laid out in his e speech last time. he will be traveling to north carolina, georgia, and chicago. "the new york times" called his speech asserttive. politico, aggressive. the president insisted we need a smarter government, not a smaller government. it was the economy that dominated the speech including a call to elevate the middle class. >> it is our generation's task to reignite the true engine of america's economic growth. a rising, thriving middle class and that's why we need to build new ladders of opportunity into the middle class for all those
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willing to climb them. a growing economy that greats middle class jobs, that must be the north star that guides our efforts. [ applause ] >> the president called on congress to raise the minimum wage and put a billion dollars into manufacturing institutes. he's announced he's creating a bipartisan commission to look into voting problems. and he will bring 34,000 troops in afghanistan home as well as press for universal preschool. he did not mention gun control until the very emotional end when he demanded a vote on gun control. >> gabrielle giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. the families of oak creek and tucson and blacksburg and the countless other communities
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ripped open by gun violence, they deserve a vote. >> i want to bring in "usa today"'s jacki california sin itch, good morning to you. let me start with you. one of the headlines in ""the daily beast" is obama pivots left. you saw the other headlines, aggressive, assertive. what was your take? >> you know, it was a lot of democratic themes that we have seen from the president on the campaign trail. things like raising the minimum wage and ideas like that. but i think that last clip is going to be the memorable part of this speech. his remarks on gun violence. he didn't say that he wants a certain bill passed. they want a vote. that's what's going to stick in the minds of people when they think about this particular state of the union. >> let's go to the other proposals beyond gun control from the minimum wage to putting money into manufacturing. as you looked at that speech and
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went over that list, let me go to capitol hill. john boehner is coming out. i'm sure we'll hear reaction from him. let's listen to the speaker of the house. >> things like making sure that our taxes are competitive and we need to reform our tax good. bring down the rates for all americans to make it fair. they expect us to continue to expand american energy production throughout our count country. it will give us a huge advantage if we continue to develop our energy resources. and i think most americans believe that we have to stop government overregulation that's strangling our economy and economic growth. last night the president offered up more of the same. higher taxes and more stimulus spending. and just as disappointing, we're weeks away from the president's sequester and the president laid out no plan to lieliminate the
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sequester and the harmful cuts that will come as a result of it. republicans have twice passed bills on the sequester. it's upon democrats to show us their plan to stop the e sequester from going into effect. >> good morning. house republicans this year are going to be about making life work for more american es. now we intend to go forcefully with a plan to help folks in terms of education, in terms of health care, in terms of facilitating better work and better opportunity. now last night the president said that he doesn't believe in a bigger government, that we want a smarter government. well, mr. president, actions speak louder than words. and for the last four years, we have seen unprecedented spending and mounting of debt that will impact not only us but our
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children and theirs. and so we remain committed to work with this president as the speaker said, on the issues facing this country to try and manage down this debt and deficit. we remain committed to working with this president on issues affecting people at home and the challenges they face. and we mean business, mr. president. we do want to work with you. we're willing to say, let's set differen differences aside and come together to produce results for the people here. >> let me go back here. as we were talking about the list of proposals the president laid out, we heard tough words from john boehner and also something very similar from what we heard from the democrats, which was about wanting to work for the middle class. he said we want to make life work for americans. but do you hear anything from either side that suggests to you that there are significant
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things on the president's list that can get done? where can the white house and democrats work with republicans? >> right, there wasn't a lot of overlap there, frankly, with what the president proposed. obviously both groups want to target the middle class. there are a lot of voters in the country's middle class. but there really isn't a lot of overlap. they talk about energy and also there was some kind of suggestions in the president's speech about medicare and some reforms to that it program where congress could come together. and obviously immigration, but we're a long way from the finish line on that policy issue. >> hold on, i want to bring in peter welch. let's get reaction to what we heard from speaker boehner. he said the president laid out no plan for the sequester. was that something you think he should have brought up last night? >> i think he did bring it up, and i think we're just talking past each other right now. two things the president spoke
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about. one, let's focus on the the middle class. in fact, i think a lot of colleagues agree. there's a disagreement about how best to do it. the president put it to congress and said we have serious problems, but they are solvable if we start working together. my hope is that mr. cantor and mr. boehner instead of engaging with the president might sit down with our democratic leaders. bringing down the cost of college education, middle class jobs program, manufacturing in america. those in general, infrastructure, those are shared objectives. and the problem we're having in congress is that we're talking globally when our job is to get specific. so there's some potential, i thi think, for us to make progress, but we have to bring it down, do work and have the leaders talk to each other and members talk to each other. >> well, let's talk about something very specific. the suggestion that the minimum wage should go up. in 2008 when he ran for
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president the first time, he proposed to raising it to $9.50. right now it's at $7.25. looking over analysis, economist es seem to be split, but most republican ls say they think it's going to hurt job creators and small business. where do you stand on this? >> i support raising the minimum wage. the fact is it does have an impact. if an employer has to pay more, that's tougher on the employer, but if you work full-time and you work a hard job, you ought to be able to pay your bills. and with the $7.25 minimum wage, that's not working out. so it's not as though it you can raise the minimum wage and have all the problems in the economy vanish. but on the other hand, having a minimum wage where people work hard and can't even pay for an apartment, that's not a sustainable economy. >> one of the really emotional moments of the night, arguably the most emotional, was at the end when he talked about guns.
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everyone was wearing the green ribbons and the president calling for a vote. there is some common ground on background checks. but we have seen a lot of bills. will we see votes and will we see movement, congressman? >> we should. this reminds me a little bit of the farm bill in the last congress. we passed a farm bill in committee, passed in the senate but never had a vote on the floor. with gun issues, they are tough politically, but if we work together, we can put something on the floor. what the american people are entitled to expect from congress is that we vote yes or no on important issues that affect them. then we can be held accountable. that call by the president is that we have a e vote on important issues not just on guns, but on other issues as well. bottom line here is the congressional leaders ought to start working with each other. we have our own job to do. the president proposes, congress disposes.
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there's enough common ground on energy efficiency that we could do something beneficial, reduce our carbon footprint without having to resolve climate change issue. issue after issue, there's potential for congress to start functioning. >> congressman, it's always good to see you. thank you for coming on the program. >> thank you. >> let me bring back jacki and shira. when you looked at the speech and saw those faces last night. hadiya pendelton's mother, mark kelly, i wonder if those faces and i guess gabrielle giffords, in particular, who has really decided to make this a cause, is it having an impact? are they a call to action of their it own? i was in a a watch party last night with some of the other vi victims of gun violence and
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their families. they were extremely happy with the speech. some of them had meetings with members of congress, republicans and democrats, throughout the day. they were told they felt optimistic from the feedback they got. you can say maybe they were telling them what they wanted to hear. some of the people have been fight i fighting for 20 years. they said that they felt that this is the first time they have ever felt like something could get done. so if you go by the people who have been on this issue for a long, long time, they are optimistic. i think there's reason to be optimistic that something, we e don't know what, could get done. >> the nra suspect backing down, although they may be changing their approach. check out this ad. >> president obama gives a good speech and when you listen to him talk about new gun laws, you may think he sounds reasonable. obama's, perts say that a gun ban like the one being debated right now in congress will not work without mandatory gun buybacks. mandatory gun buyback, that's
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government confiscation owned by honest citizens. >> shira, this is pretty different than the ad that said obama is a liberal, secret service protection, what about is this a pivot by the nra? are they changing their messaging? >> it it certainly sounds like it. what a different tone and what a different way they are framing these issues in that press conference we saw several weeks ago with wayne lapierre, it's like night and day. they saw the numbers and you have aired them on the network showing the nra becoming increasingly unpopular and they knew they needed to change their approach. what they are trying to do is do it in a more explanatory tone so people understand. they know the president is still fairly popular, at least compared to the rest of his term and other presidents in their second term right now. they know they need to be smarter than having a 30-minute long press conference. they didn't take any questions,
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welcome back to rome where the pope is about to celebrate his final mass as pope. it will start as early as march 15th to pick his successor. the pope received a standing
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ovation at his first public appearance since the announcement he will step down. he told thousands gathered he was resigning for the good of the church and asked them to pray for him, the church and for the future pope. i'm joined by analyst george wigel and elizabeth led from dew cane university here in rome. it's great to have you here. i was in the audience. people were crying. it was a very charged atmosphere. but there's a lot of questioning going on about this decision. and the pope said, and i'm going to read it off of my blackberry i did this after praying for a long time and examining my conscio conscious. i wonder what you thought today? >> this is one of these beginning moments when he's going to start to say good-bye to the the people he's led for
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eight years. in remembering a little bit about the kind of decision that he had to make, it's not an, i think, maybe, this was a man when he was 7 years old wrote a letter to jesus asking for a medal of the sacred heart. >> that's what he wanted for christmas. >> he's been pen pals with jesus for 80 years. he made this decision prayerfully. he's been holding god's hand and we have to respect that. that's what all those people in the audience is there to respect his decision. >> i got into quite a heated discussion earlier in the day. the cardinal made this comment. he said, john paul led the church to the end because he was convinced that one doesn't come down from the cross. a lot of people interpreted that as essentially the pope taking the easy way out. he's elderly, he's tired and so he's going to retire. >> i think that would be a bad
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way to look at this. these are two decisions in conscious made by two men of conscious. john paul ii's decision to live his dying publically was his last great teaching moment and the world responded to that in a remarkable way. benedict xvi thought it wouldn't play out that way and he was not going to hold the stage simply to hold the stage. he was going to make a humble act of acceptance of what he believes is god's will. >> is he making the decision about when the conclave will start? there are a lot of people who will wait the 15 days. normally it would be a period of mourning, but the pope has not died. >> i find this frankly ratherer puzzling myself. i'm told the decision was made by the dean of the college of
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cardinals and the guy who runs the church, if you will. it does seem to me to be rather a long time to wait to enclose the conclave. we have already had the three-week period before the pope officially steps down. >> it does seem like there a lot of decisions yet to be made. we were talking about the fact we know the pope is going to go for a short time. then literally straight down the street at the vatican, there's what is essentially a monetary and we're just learning that they have been doing some fix-it-up construction work since this summer. >> i was in the vatican this morning. we were wondering why they were doing that work this summer in august when nobody is around. they are doing all this work. they have been preparing this obviously for awhile. and it will be separate in the heart of the garden, but at the
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same time, it's in that space of the gardens where he has gone to pray every evening. so he will be nearby and secluded and in his period of prayer. >> we saw the workman going in today. we're not sure what's going on there today. i'd love you to come back if we have time. thanks to both of you. there's a new report by the national hurricane center that says superstorm sandy was the second costliest storm. it's about $50 billion. only hurricane katrina in 2005 cost more causing $108 billion in damage. the report also blames 72 deaths directly on sandy. that makes it the deadliest hurricane to strike the northeast in 40 years. [ male announcer ] house rule number 14.
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good to see both of you. they are not supposed to po politic, but this is one of the most. blatant statements i have ever heard from a cardinal. what's going on? >> it would be strange if we were not thinking about who should be the next pope. pope benedict himself this morning asked us to pray for his successor. >> but to come out and say, kind of, i'd like to do it. >> it's a little odd, i agree. ardales in the conclave really should not be talking about the actual conclave itself. however, i think looking at the past two popes, two great surprises and two great popes. the race, we call it a race, is wide open. but ultimately, chris, we believe as roman catholics the holy spirit will make the final choice. you go in a pope and come out a cardinal. >> it's not always good to be the front runner. father, we do know that the
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cardinals have openly been talking about discussions in phone and person. i saw a huge number of cardinals at the audience this morning. those who are here in rome. talk about what kinds of qualities they would be looking for. to that extent, is the cardinal right? the church is ready for a pope outside the eurozone? >> i think cardinal's comments have to be taken in context of showing his willingness to serve more than as a way of advancing his own candidacy. i do think the cardinals will be looking for someone who is younger. the pope's own justification for resigning had to do with stamina and energy. it's natural that the cardinals will be looking for someone who is capable of baring the physical demands as well as the spiritual demands. at the same time, they want someone who knows the roman
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government of the church well and at the same time can speak to the contemporary world in a convincing way, can carry out the new e advantage lieization that the church is concerned about now. >> certainly local television stations have been interviewing cardinals. a lot of them have spoken openly about what they see as a bit of disarray. they don't think the management, the day-to-day operations of the vatican have been going very well. that's kind of an open secret here. are those kinds of management skills increasingly important in a time like this? >> we are talking about a church which has 1.2 billion members, about a leader who is thee moral leader in the whole world. that's recognized by government, recognized by other religious leaders too. so ultimately when there's more representation by the catholic
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church, perhaps in any other government, there are going to be difficulties and certainly we need someone at the head who is able to manage a church as large as that. i really believe pope benedict managed the church well. he's saying i want someone there who is going to take this forward with that kind of ability. that's why he was so courageous and so brave to step down. he's saying these are the problems that face us. e he said in that statement, chris, rapid changes, new issues, and so let's find a person who can deal with those. >> it's great of both of you to come over. it's going to be busy around here. this morning sources tell nbc news that the body found in the burned out cabin in southern california appears to be that of fugitive christopher dorner. dorner barricaded himself inside that cabin yesterday after a shootout that left one deputy dead and another wounded. a man whose car was stolen by
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the fugitive told "the today show" about that face to face meeting. >> he came up do me with his gun pointed at me. i stopped my truck, put it in park and he said i don't want to hurt you. just get out and start walking down the road, which is what i did. >> joining me from big bear is miguel almaguer. it appears the man hunt is over, but tell us how this all played out. >> reporter: good afternoon. there was a series of events that unfolded yesterday starting at around 12:30 in the afternoon. two women who were cleaning a house in the big bear area say they entered a home. they told police they walked inside and they were confronted by a man who certainly fit christopher dorner's description. that man took them into custody. he tied them up for some time and made his way out of that home in their vehicle down the road. apparently, those two women called police and called in that not only had their car been
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stolen but they had come face to face with christopher dorner. police swarmed this area. offic officers found dorner in that stolen vehicle. a gun battle ensued. dorner then crash ed that car, got into another vehicle and again there was another gun battle with officers. dorner then made his way on foot into the wooded area to where, as you mentioned, there was that standoff in that cabin that lasted quite some time. hundreds of rounds of ammunition were exchanged between the suspect and s.w.a.t. team offic officers. two officers were shot. one deputy did die. the other was air lifted to the hospital and is expected to survive. a short time ago we have been told that a body was discovered inside that burned out cabin. as you mentioned, law enforcement sources do confirm it is the suspect, christopher dorner, who was on the run for six days. the man hunt is now over, chris. >> miguel almaguer, thank you for that update.
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stocks are inching dloe inio their all-time high. the dow now just 1% away from its record high set back in october of 2007. what has investors so encouraged? >> you're in the seat of where folks talk a lot about faith. on wall street, there's faith that even as the clock ticks down to the sequester, those deals, those cuts that have to be taken that wall street will pull off a showdown to avoid that mandatory spending cut deadline. in the meantime, sales today were also in line and looked pretty good. we got good data out of europe. then there's the big deal. ge is the best performing component today after the industrial giant struck a deal with parent company comcast to sell its stake in nbc universal for over $16.5 billion. ge will use some of the cash to
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government. uk's headline, barack obama offers unapologetic case of power of government. and the times of london picked up on this piece. a new plan for the eu. the big international news is that the president announced 34,000 troops in afghanistan will come home in a year. >> tonight i can announce that over the next year, another 34,000 american troops will come home from afghanistan. this drawdown will continue and by the end of next year or war in afghanistan will be over. [ applause ] >> i want to bring in richard engel. welcome to both of you. >> nice to be here. again, second in a row. >> let's talk about foreign affairs that had been telegraphed by the white house. he talked about afghanistan, a very brief mention of the middle east. what kind of reaction are you hearing across this part of the
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world? >> not a great reaction. not much reaction at all. he barely mentioned the middle east. i think people in the middle east had been look iing for a little bit more u.s. leadership on syria. and there's a recognition in the region that syria is a black hole that could suck the other countries into. it. and all the president said was, we continue to oppose assad and support the responsible opposition. an indication that the united states does not intend to get more deeply involved in syria. i think there's a certainly in the neighboring countries a disappointment in that. an olive branch extended to iran saying this is the time to negotiate. some people in israel and some israel supporters in the united states wanted a much harder line on iran. i think the president is going to be going to the middle east fairly soon and we'll see if there's something that comes out of that trip in terms of give. ing israel a little more on
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iran. but not much on international and i think people in the region were looking for more leadership on syria. >> parliamentary in a few days ourks president will be meeting with your president. i'm wondering what you were looking for last night in the focus of the economy. is that important in the eurozone? >> absolutely, yes. e we know whatever happens to the american economy will influence our economy. we have elections in a week. we also influence somehow american economy. so the perception of the fact that the president launched this free trade agreement or negotiations between america and european union is a positive step. then also together in afghanistan, we are working together. there was a little bit of that. >> this trade agreement s that a widely-held view? >> i think so. we understood well in this last year of the economic crisis that
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our economies are binded together and we can grow together or sink together and it's better to cooperate. it's much more effective to do so in a global world that is asking us to raise the level of our international relations. i think it can work. >> the other obviously big international issue as we talked about yesterday quite a bit, north korea. the president saying that the regime must know they will only secure prosperity by meeting their international obligations. members of the u.n., other key players in all this, how closely are they looking or parse iing clues? >> well, i think they are in a black hole with north korea. excuse me i had a frog in my throat. there's a problem with north korea. a lot of pressure already on it. i'm not sure how much the international community can really do more than it's already doing right now. so when you're dealing with an
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unpredictable leader, it's hard to know what to do. i hate to be more vague than that, but you have sanctions already. the regime blows up nuclear devices underground. how do you respond to that? >> it's get iting a little chil out here as the sun is going down. richard, thank you so much. it's so good of you to come over. and thank you to your country for being so welcoming to us whenever we show up. thank you so much. and today's tweet of the day, "after retirement the pope will spend his time with those who suffer deplorable conditions with no way out" he's taking a carnival cruise.
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it's been said that beauty is in the ewell...behold. der. behold water so blue it merges with the sky above. behold natural beauty above the sea, and far below.
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behold smiles so wide they stretch across the face of an entire nation. behold...the islands of the bahamas.
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will step down and get on a helicopter and fly to his summer residence to begin this rare
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retirement. i took a trip to the small town about 40 minutes to the southeast of vatican city. this is st. thomas's church, one of only three designed from the ground up. it's the center piece of a pea yat is a here like so many. you have the requisite fountain. this is a little town that has been since the 1620s the summer residence of popes and will be the first place that benedict comes to retire after february 28th. and of course, anchoring this beautiful pea yat sda is the residence. you can see these huge doors. it doesn't look that big, but what's behind it is extraordinary because once you open those doors, you have -- look they are opening it it. we almost caught it. behind those doors you have a big courtyard which is on
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sundays when he's in residence here, he does do his sunday audience. but there's a huge villa with panoramic views of rome. the space between the villas and gardens behind these doors is bigger than all of vatican city with the most extraordinary views including the lakes that you can see over to the right. it gives you a sense of what pope benedict will be seeing once he's no longer pope. e we don't know how long he's going to be here. he will remain at this residence for an undetermined amount of time and go back to the monastery in the vatican where he will finish out his years. >> i'm back here live. the other thing we learned today is that there will be a sort of formal good-bye. the pope will take his last audience outdoors instead of indoors where you can have a few thousand and he's going to have this big audience for as many
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people as can come. what do we imagine that would be like? >> in 2008 it was called the day of the pope. and 50,000 came. they had another one in 2010. i think that this audience is going to be the super papa day with everybody there trying to express how much we have appreciated what he's done for us. >> as i have been talking to folks, probably not as much as you, but he's never liked to draw too much attention to himself. he didn't want a huge sendoff, although it it seems appropriate he's taking something popes always do which is these general audiences and opening the doors wider. >> i think, chris, people recognize that this is a historic moment in a number of ways. we haven't had this kind of transition in over 700 years. that's obvious.
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what's little less obvious, perhaps, is this is the last pope of of the second vatican council. the next will not have attended the council. we're moving from one era in catholic history to the next. i've called evangelical cothol schism. >> we saw a little bit of it this morning. there was so much emotion. people need to know about these audiences. this they are indoors people get tickets far in advance. there was a group there from baton rouge, louisiana. and they just happened to have tickets and planned their trip on the day that was this momentous occasion. so i can't believe this will be any less so. and i know that george michael is going to be here for us here at nbc. so it's going to e know we're in such good hands. thank you both for spending time
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with us. that's going to wrap up this special hour of "jansing and co." from rome. thomas roberts is up next. >> chris, good morning. have a safe trip back from oklahoma. thanks so much. breaking news coming up in the next hour. lapd giving an update at the top of the hour on the ex--cop man hunt that game to a fiery end last night after a car chase and a shootout. forensic experts are working to determine whether charred remains found in a burned out cabin are those of christopher dorner who alluded authorities for days. also republicans come out swinging against the president's state of the union address. what really can he get done? we'll get reaction from chris murphy and maxine waters. then the reverend al sharpton on the state of confusion over voting rights and what the president plans to do about it. that and much more, coming up next. pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning,
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